What does it mean that the Word was God and the Word was with God?


John 1:1 - 18

NASB - 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God.

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Stringio Zion Sandhya grace be with you
'The word of god' is very significant and important for us. 

1) Creation was 'spoke' into existence.
It was by the word of God that the world was created in 7 days. God SAID " let there be........" and so the world was made the way it is today.

2) Jesus is 'the word of God' that came in flesh to save us.
The father, the son (word of god), and the holy spirit make our trinity. Jesus was 'the son of god' because he was the word of God, the firstborn of God.

3) THE WORD is a part of God given to us as a guide, a testimony of his love, an aid during trouble, the way to reach god, a visible real connection between us and God.

4) THE BIBLE: through the bible we listen to God and through prayer we talk.

So 'the word was God' is Jesus, and He is of the heavenly Father. By His blood and love we are bestowed with the grace of being called 'children of God'.

May 07 2013 5 responses Vote Up Share Report

Mini John Greene
In the beginning is speaking of the beginning of time. God does not have a beginning. Was the word, Word comes from the Greek, Logos, where we get logo. It means thought or expression. The word was God, tells us that we can not know God apart from his thought, expression. Expression of himself, who he is is how he has expressed himself to mankind from the beginning. God is a Spirit, he does not have flesh and blood. God was looking down through time and seeing the man that he would become. The man Christ Jesus was in the mind of God, Who he would be. Not another God. Why, to pay the price of all the sin of the world. To save his children from destruction no matter the cost to himself. He loves us that much. To respond to his fervent love. We must experience Acts 2:38. God bless

May 07 2013 4 responses Vote Up Share Report

Open uri20120115 13681 15m6n9h Jim Mcneely
The word "Word" is the Greek word Logos, which is a prominent word and idea in Greek philosophy from Heraclitus to Plato through to the Stoics. “The Logos gave expression to their deep conviction of the rationality of the universe. They did not think of the Logos as personal, so they did not understand it as we would God.” - Leon Morris

They thought of it as the thing which accounted for the order we see in the cosmos. It is the stabilizing, directing principle of the universe.

We do see order in the universe! We see physicists looking for the “Occam’s Razor” solution - the simplest and most elegant explanation for things. They search for governing universal laws which explain many things. We do not live in a chaotic and random universe. The speed of light is always the same. The mass of an electron is always the same. The gravitational force of a given mass is always the same. The cosmological constant is always the same. There is rational logic and order to the structure of the universe and of life. There is, as Thomas Nagel the secular philosopher has written in his book "Mind and Cosmos", clearly a MIND at work in the cosmos.

John lifts this tradition, this non-religious intuition that we still have, and uses it squarely at the very start of his gospel. In the beginning was the Logos, and it was God. He links the long traditions of secular philosophical thought and religious thought, of Greek thought and Jewish thought. He says, the Logos is true. There is a great Logos, a great stabilizing directing principle which governs the order of the universe. It has personality - it is a "He". He is God. The Greek notion of the Logos and the religious notion of the Messiah are both true, and they find their unity in Christ. Unbelievable!

Heraclitus, the first Greek to write about the Logos, and Isaiah the prophet, who wrote about the Messiah as the coming suffering servant, lived at almost the same time. Isaiah was probably on his deathbed when Heraclitus was born. So the Lord was preparing for the coming of Jesus Christ the Logos made flesh over 500 years before His birth.

The stoics, who carried this idea on, were active from 350 BC right into the time of Christ and the early church.

Philo of Alexandria, the Hellenistic (Greek) Jewish philosopher, represents the apex of Jewish-Greek syncretism. He endeavored to merge Plato and Moses into one philosophical system. Josephus tells of Philo's selection by the Alexandrian Jewish community as their principal representative before the Roman emperor Gaius Caligula. Philo lived from 20 BC to 50 AD. C.H. Dodd thinks he was heavily influential upon John.

Leon Morris gives us a good perspective: “John’s thought is his own. He uses a term which would be full of meaning to men whatever their background. But whatever their background they would not find John’s thought identical with their own. His idea of the Logos is essentially new." 

The Logos was "with" and "was" God. This is the first mention of the great mystery of the members of the trinity. The Word was with God (division) and was God (no division). Jesus is God, but is not the Father. The Word, it says, is God, and yet is distinct from God. The Word did not “become” God. He was God from the beginning.

“With” denotes relationship, or community. There is a division of identity that is bridged through communication. The Logos or word is that which transpires between two, and makes one. “Word” indicates a message spoken between two individuals. Inside of God’s identity from before the beginning of time there is relationship and the hint of mutual love and respect.

August 04 2014 1 response Vote Up Share Report

Mini Al Mari Private practice as a cardiovascular & thoracic surgeon
The context of John 1:1-14 is a historic narrative about the prior existence of Jesus. 

That before he became flesh (v-14), he was the Creator Logos or Word. He was called Logos or Word because just by the power of his "word", things came into being, as in "God said, let there be..." (starting in Gen. 1:3 and on). 

From the beginning and as a Creator YHVH ELOHIM (Gen. 2), he was "God". But also, he was with God (the Father). 

As pre-incarnate YHVH ELOHIM, he was spirit-bodied and fully "god". But as man-Jesus, he was "flesh and blood", fully man, yet, still fully "god" (Ps. 82:6; Jn. 10:34).

February 18 2015 1 response Vote Up Share Report

Mini leslie coutinho Working in the Gulf, State of kuwait as a Project Manager
The WORD is the Triune Spirit of God for God is a Spirit. Jesus said that when we worship him we must worship him in Spirit and truth.

God is sovereign, sitting on His throne and by His Word all things have been created. Jesus said God is a Spirit (John 4:24) for Christ was the Word of God in spirit and He was with God right from the beginning as prophesied by the Prophet (Isaiah 48:13 and 16)

By His Word He made man in his own image (Gen 1:26) and breathed into his nostrils giving the breath of Life (Gen 2:7) This breath of life when spoken by man has the power of God given to him which can bring blessings and a curse to himself and others when spoken (James 3:10 / Proverbs 18:21)

February 25 2016 1 response Vote Up Share Report

John Chapter One holds so many answers to the origin of our world and it's present condition that volumes could be written concerning it's content. Assurance that the "Word" is not only the power of creation but the instruction from the Creator Himself, places those first five verses in great esteem of knowing better the Character of our God.

The fact that the Word is stated as being God brings a logical conclusion that the "Word" is our practical connection to the Creator. In essence, when we hold the Bible, the Word of God, we are holding the very presence of God in our hands. Opening the Bible is literally opening a conversation with the Savior Himself. 

I am not inferring that the simple holding of a Bible creates a relationship with God, but I am saying reading the contents reveals the Character of Christ the Creator to the reader. Reverence to the Book itself shows a reverence to God, since the Word is God. 

Not so long ago I fractured a vertebra in my lower back. As I entered my home after the E.R. visit, I had only one desire, that being to get to my favorite recliner. As I walked by the table in our entrance I tossed my keys and my wallet atop the contents of the table top. I struggled the rest of the way to my chair and slowly reclined to what was a temporary respite. 

My wife then departed to the pharmacy for some pain pills and I remained reclined in my Lazy-boy. For some reason, I was compelled to look over at the table where I had tossed my wallet and keys. Seeing them, I became unusually annoyed. Underneath my tossed items lay my NAS Study Bible.

It is a rarity at best to find a Bible under any other item at my home. From an early age, my grandmother taught me the reverence of it's worth and would have severely reprimanded me for disrespecting it's placement. Fifty years have past and I still, even when fallen away, have respected the location and honor given to this Book.

Laying there in the recliner was no longer a solace for me. I must stand and remove the items that had inadvertently ended up upon God's Word. Step by step I approached and when arrived, I grasped the Book and returned to my chair. Opening it, I read the words of John and began to realize my struggle and pain to retrieve the Bible from it's place of cover caused a more useful location, beneath my eyes

The Bible is the Word of God. The Word of God is His Son. Jesus, and the Words He spoke are the only respite we need as His followers. Even though my pain did not subside, my hope and faith in Him increased to a point that the pain became merely a temporal occurrence. 

In short, JESUS is the Word, Jesus is with God, and Jesus is God. Nothing that was or would ever be would exist without His spoken Word. He speaks and it becomes as He wills. 

The twist however, is when the Word became flesh. This God who could speaks into existence all that has ever been became a "man". This man named Jesus by virtue of His "Words", brought Grace to His fallen creation. Can there be a greater proof of greatness and honor or love than the Words He left us. Words that would save, Words that would heal. Words that would redeem. Jesus is the Word and the Word reveals the Love of Our God.
Dean Donahue, Show Low, Arizona

May 29 2016 0 responses Vote Up Share Report

My picture Jack Gutknecht ABC/DTS graduate, guitar music ministry Baptist church
First, see the big picture: 

705 Christ in John 1
1 Christ the Word John 1:1
2 Christ the Light John 1:8
3 Christ the Lamb of God John 1:29,36
4 Christ the Son of God John 1:34,49
5 Christ the Anointed (Messias) John 1:41
6 Christ the King of Israel John 1:49
7 Christ the Son of man John 1:51

706 The Word
1 His Eternity—in the beginning John 1:1
2 His Equality—was with God John 1:1
3 His Deity—was God John 1:1
4 His Humanity—was made flesh John 1:14
5 His Testimony—‘told the Father out’ (Margin) John 1:18

Jesus is God – John 1:1.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God. 

The Bible teaches that Jesus is not merely someone who is a lot like God or someone who has a very close walk with God. Rather, Jesus is the Most High God himself. Titus 2:13 says that as Christians we are “looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus.” Upon seeing the resurrected Christ, Thomas cried out, “My Lord and my God!” (John 20:28). Likewise, the book of Hebrews gives us God the Father’s direct testimony about Christ: “But of the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever" and the gospel of John calls Jesus “the only begotten God” (John 1:18).

Another way the Bible teaches that Jesus is God is by showing that he has all of the attributes of God. He knows everything (Matthew 16:21; Luke 11:17; John 4:29), is everywhere (Matthew 18:20; 28:20; Acts 18:10), has all power (Matthew 8:26-27; 28:18; John 11:38-44; Luke 7:14-15; Revelation 1:8), depends on nothing outside of himself for life (John 1:4; 14:6; 8:58), rules over everything (Matthew 28:18; Revelation 1:5; 19:16;), never began to exist and never will cease to exist (John 1:1; 8:58), and is our Creator (Colossians 1:16). In other words, everything that God is, Jesus is. For Jesus is God.

And the Word was God (kai qeo hn o logo). By exact and careful language John denied Sabellianism by not saying o qeo hn o logo. That would mean that all of God was expressed in o logo and the terms would be interchangeable, each having the article. The subject is made plain by the article (o logo) and the predicate without it (qeo) just as in John 4:24 pneuma o qeo can only mean "God is spirit," not "spirit is God." So in 1 John 4:16 o qeo agaph estin can only mean "God is love," not "love is God" as a so-called Christian scientist would confusedly say. For the article with the predicate see Robertson, Grammar_, pp. 767f. So in John 1:14 o Logo sarx egeneto, "the Word became flesh," not "the flesh became Word." Luther argues that here John disposes of Arianism also because the Logos was eternally God, fellowship of Father and Son, what Origen called the Eternal Generation of the Son (each necessary to the other). Thus in the Trinity we see personal fellowship on an equality.


The Word (John 1:1-3, 14) Much as our words reveal to others our hearts and minds, so Jesus Christ is Gods Word to reveal His heart and mind to us. “He that hath seen me hath seen the Father” (John 14:9). A word is composed of letters, and Jesus Christ is Alpha and Omega” (Rev. 1:11), the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet. According to Hebrews 1:1-3, Jesus Christ is God’s last Word to mankind, for He is the climax of divine revelation. 
Jesus Christ is the eternal Word (John 1:1-2). He existed in the beginning, not because He had a beginning as a creature, but because He is eternal. He is God and He was with God. “Before Abraham was, I am” (John 8:58). 

O Thou essential Word,
Who wast from the beginning
With God, for Thou wast God;
Thou hope of all the sinning,
Chosen to save our race,
Welcome indeed Thou art,
Redeemer, Fount of grace,
To this my longing heart.

In John 1:1-2 are some realities CONCERNING THE PREINCARNATE CHRIST (John 1:1-5) 

His relationship to the Father is described in John 1:1

August 05 2019 0 responses Vote Up Share Report

1535814224 Esther Martinez
As we are made in Gods image, and just as our words ARE us; they express our intentions and what's in our hearts (Prov 23:7, Lk 6:45, Jm 3:6, etc). Jesus IS Gods expression, His Glory, His Truth. Jesus is God expressed word in a tridimensional way. Glory to His name.

May 16 2014 0 responses Vote Up Share Report

Mini Tim Beeker
Memra, as it is represented in Torah is what this speaks of.

Bereshith can be translated as "in the firstborn" rather than "in the beginning."

This is how Yochanon chose to write in the first chapter of his presentation of the gospel. They are parallel passages. Gen 1:1 and John 1:1

Memra = Logos = Word = Meaning

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Mini Dave Larsen Husband, father and grand father. Student of the Messiah.
John’s description of Yoshua as the very WORD of GOD reveals the Truth concerning Yoshua’s ministry. 

John 14:6: Yoshua answered, “I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know Him and have seen Him.”

John 17:6-11: “I have revealed you (Father) to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me, and they have obeyed your WORD. 7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. 8 For I gave them the WORDS you gave me, and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me. 9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them. 11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your Name, the Name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. 

Yoshua is the WORD of Father manifested in the flesh; He and the Father share the same Name. I believe John’s witness that Yoshua is the WORD of GOD stems from a revelation he received from Yoshua and recorded in the book of Revelation.

Revelation 1:8: I am the Alef and the Tav,” says the LORD GOD, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

The Alef and the Tav are the first and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet. In most English translations the Hebrew Alef Tav have been replaced with Alpha Omega. If Yoshua’s revelation was only that He is the beginning and the end of an alphabet, any alphabet would do. But there was much more being reveled then the first and last letters of an alphabet. John was well aware of the Alef Tav; a two-letter word written over 7000 times in the Hebrew Scriptures. A word that had long been a mystery to Rabbis and scribes. 

In the book of Revelation, Yoshua tells John three times He is the Alef Tav ensuring the reader could understand this is not about the first and last letter of an alphabet, but a great revelation. In order see and understand the revelation it requires using the Hebrew Scripture, because all English translations have removed the Alef Tav text. The follow text is taken from Bible Hub's Interlinear online version:

Genesis 1:1: In the beginning created GOD Alef Tav (אֵ֥ת) the heaves and Alef Tav (אֵ֥ת) the earth. 

Exodus 20:1: And spoke GOD Alef Tav (אֵ֥ת) all these WORDS saying (Ten Commandments).

Deuteronomy 4:2: You shall not add to the WORD which I command nor take away from it, that you may keep Alef Tav (אֵ֥ת) commandments of Yahweh your GOD which I command you. 

When Yoshua told John He was the Alef Tav, He also said He was the LORD GOD almighty. The Alef and the Tav are a Name the Father and Son share, for the Son is the manifestation of the WORD of the Spirit in the flesh. 

John 1:14: The WORD became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and Truth.

What does it mean that the Word was GOD, and the WORD was with GOD?

It means accepting Yoshua as our savior requires accepting the entire WORD of GOD. Yoshua Himself said, “I Am the Alef and the Tav,” says the LORD GOD, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” It means we must be born again through the WORD of GOD, the Name that sustains all life. (Matthew 4:4, 1 Peter 1:22-23)

May 07 2024 0 responses Vote Up Share Report

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