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Will atheists who were baptized as babies go to heaven?



    
    

Clarify (3) Share Report Asked September 22 2013 Mini Marlene Farmer

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Mini Delvaughn Mccall
This answer is no for many reasons, one babies are not baptized for any reason, their parents are their covering until they are old enough to be accountable for their own actions, two, baptism does not save you, faith, obedience, and lifestyle along with faith and baptism save you, and three, the fact that they are atheist means they reject Elohim and his word which disqualifies them from enteral life

September 23 2013 4 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Meinbw David Whitley Deacon at Orange View church of Christ
The short answer is no.  This doesn't simply apply to atheists but for everyone, everywhere.  All babies are outside the parameters of accountability, they are sinless.  They are not under judgement.

Don't fall for the heresy that one need only "believe!"

While "faith" is the key that unlocks the door of salvation -- it is abundantly clear that "obedience" thereafter is essential to remaining "saved."  Baptism is clearly an act of obedience and in ALL scriptural cases was done immediately and by immersion only.

Mark 16:15-16 Jesus said,
“… Go into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believes AND is baptized shall be saved, and he that does not believe shall be condemned.”

Obviously one who doesn't believe would never take the obedient step of baptism so it is absent from the clarifying text.  You only need not "believe" to be condemned.  To be save requires much more than mere belief.  Works do not save!  Works do not save!  Works do not save! But lack of works is absolute confirmation of a lack of "faith."

And without faith you will be condemned.  Faith has always been what saved -- from beginning until the present.  The Law saved no one!

To claim "faith" alone without "works" is to deceive oneself into damnation.

Acts 2 tells us about obedience;

38 And Peter said to them, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
41 So those who accepted his word were baptized, and there were added to their number that day about three thousand souls…

James 2 destroys the "faith only" argument when he says;

14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? 17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

Christ says you will "DO" works if you have faith...

12 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father. 13 Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
15 “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

Do you LOVE Christ?  Then keep His commandments and be active in and for your "faith."

September 23 2013 0 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Mini Anonymous
I don't think so. I believe baptism is a symbol that is pointless if your not already a Christian.

September 22 2013 2 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Mini Delvaughn Mccall
Grace is the favor n mercy of Yah to get right what you have done wrong, John 3:16 confirms just that, the word believe is a two fold word, it's not only mental but it's action....why did Paul, who was filled with the very spirit of Elohim say he must die daily, and keep his body under subjection....lifestyle is completely key to salvation, 1 cor 9:26,27

September 23 2013 2 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Stringio Gary Patton People Development Coach to Christians
A knowing and known Jesus Follower's baptism is their testimonial commitment, in public, to their believing in, following, and obeying Jesus as he lays down in Romans 10:8-12. 

It's not a "Get Into Abundant Life + Heaven Free Card" (John 10:10 & John 3:16). 

Further, Jesus says that our Passport to "Eternal Abundant Life", in the dirty here and now plus a glorious hereafter, is really Him "knowing" us! (Matthew 7:21-23)

Blessings all!

September 23 2013 0 responses Vote Up Share Report


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2005 Robert Beaulieu Follower
Master Jesus Say's

Mark 16:16 NASB  "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

A baby cannot believe, it must be a profession of faith. 

Apostle Paul Say's

Romans 10:9-10 NASB  that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;  (10)  for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

The idea was birthed by the Catholic Church fees were paid to have baptism services by a charlatan.  There were always babies coming  and it is a clever trick of the enemy to have people believe they are saved by Baptism and Works.

September 23 2013 1 response Vote Up Share Report


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Mini Jason Dalrymple Servant of the living God, husband & father
No. We do not serve a God that rules by force. Jesus came because we did not have a choice but to serve the flesh, and because of His death & resurrection, and through faith in Him we now have a choice. We can choose to not be a slave to sin. Saying that a baby (who didn't choose to be baptized) who was baptized and then decided that they didn't believe in God when they did have the maturity to choose, is to imply that God forces us to something we do not WILLFULLY choose. This is how satan would like us to see God. "God is love" and a government based on love requires freedom, I cannot put a gun to your head and make you love me) freedom is risky; i.e. we could CHOOSE to not love Him. The only thing that we can do for our salvation is to CHOOSE Jesus. The notion of once saved always saved implies that we do not have free CHOICE!

September 24 2013 0 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Valiant family June Canomay JUNEC
Biblically speaking,it is God's over all authority to prevail in the last judgment.Who are we to judge those outside the assembly of believers?

Based from the authority from Apostle Paul:
1 corinthians 5:12-13  

12, For what have I to do with judging them that are without? Do not ye judge them that are within?
13, But them that are without God judgeth. Put away the wicked man from among yourselves.

The scripture says that those people that are without God or do not 

believe in God (Atheist) or hasn't come to the knowledge of truth 

must not be judgeth even in the early Christian or within the church 

of God as claim by Apostle Paul.

The same also in Christian faith, we cannot judge then every person whether he is going to hell or to heaven cause even God wants all men to be saved.

  1 timothy 2:3-6

"  3, This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
    4, who would have all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth.
    5, For there is one God, one mediator also between God and men, himself man, Christ Jesus,
    6, who gave himself a ransom for all; the testimony to be borne in its own times.

That's why up to now God is showing His long suffering for our wickedness but not slack in his promise of coming.

2 peter 3:9

"9, The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness; but is longsuffering to you-ward, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

God is not wishing that any of us should perish including Atheist but must all should come to repentance.

Regarding about baptism.

Nowhere in the scripture that they baptized baby.But i believe that baptism is part of our salvation and also taught by our Lord Jesus Christ.

Matthew 28:19-20
  
"19, Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit:
    20, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world."

Baptism biblically speaking is part of a better promises/better covenant God has enacted upon.

   18, Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;
    19, in which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison,
    20, that aforetime were disobedient, when the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water:
    21, which also after a true likeness doth now save you, even baptism, not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the interrogation of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ;
    22, who is on the right hand of God, having gone into heaven; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

It speaks of water baptism.It is not a washing away of our body's filth but washing by water with God's word sanctifying every believer through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 5:25-27

"Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. "

This is the importance of water baptism as part of God's salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Regarding babies:

This i would say.

Heb 5:13  For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 

Our Lord Jesus Christ do not forbid children for such is the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 19:14  But Jesus said, "Allow the children, and do not forbid them to come to me, [for to such belongs] the kingdom of heaven." 

If a baby dies,I regard them to be in the Lord's favor and such belongs to the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:3  "Blessed are the poor in spirit, because theirs is the kingdom of heaven

Mat 5:8  Blessed are the pure in heart, because they will see God. 

a very considerable claim from the scripture that we could conclude that babies were included for kingdom of heaven.

I believe some atheist were misguided or blinded by the enemy but as what
the scripture says'

Ecc 9:4  For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion. 

2Co 4:18   While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. 

DO NOT WORK FOR THINGS WHICH ARE TEMPORAL.IT WILL ALL PAST AWAY.

THERE IS HOPE in every living.Make your choice now in God's favor.

For all atheist,it is wise to believe that we have a compassionate and loving Creator who cares for us all. Amen.Godbless!.Maranatha!.

September 24 2013 0 responses Vote Up Share Report


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