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Was Matthias or Paul God's choice to replace Judas as the 12th apostle?



      

Acts 1:26

ESV - 26 And they cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias, and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

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Shea S. Michael Houdmann Supporter Got Questions Ministries
With Judas having betrayed Christ and then committing suicide, the 11 remaining disciples decided to replace Judas with a new 12th apostle (Acts 1:16-20). The requirements were that the man had to ...

July 01 2013 4 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Stringio Nathan Toronga Christian Elder.
I'll keep my answer very brief and to the point. 

Paul was God's choice, and it's Paul's name we will see on one of the gates.

Why?

1. It was the Messiah who chose the original twelve. Their invitation was varied, but it was the Messiah Himself who appointed apostles from among the disciples. Luke 6:13

2. It was the Messiah who appointed Paul. If Mathias had been God's choice, Paul would have been appointed an evangelist or something else, but no, he was appointed an apostle. Rom 1:1, 1 Cor 9:1-2, 2 Cor 11:5

3. No apostle ever appointed another. This is the prerogative of God alone. It's a high office, and only God appoints to the office of apostle or prophet. 1 Cor 12:28

Peter was always the hasty guy. Unfortunately, in the matter of Mathias, he misjudged. Apostles were handpicked by Jesus Christ, not chosen by lot. This was a brand new method from Peter.

Mathias can be considered a disciple, but not an apostle. 

Hence the apostle who replaced Judas Iscariot was Paul.

Bless you all.

August 30 2014 4 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Stringio Bruce Morgan
God does things in ways that are surprising. There were "12 tribes of Israel" but on closer examination there was actually one tribe for each son of Jacob/Israel but instead of a "tribe of Joseph" there were two half-tribes of his sons Manasseh and Ephraim (Joshua 14:3) and Levi was set apart as priests (Joshua 13:33)

God Himself is One God and yet Three Persons.

So, there could be 12 apostles "plus one", and indeed, Paul described himself as an apostle "abnormally born" and not one of "The Twelve" (1 Cor 15:5-11) but rather appointed "Apostle to the Gentiles" (Rom 11:13; Gal 2:8; 1 Tim 2:7)

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the LORD.
“As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts."
Isaiah 55:8-9

August 30 2014 1 response Vote Up Share Report


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Q jcryle001 JD Abshire
Matthias was chosen by God as one of the twelve, not Paul.
This is evidenced by the filling of The Holy Spirit of those who were at Pentecost, signifying His approval.

Acts 2:14 "But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:"

December 24 2013 8 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Image41 Ezekiel Kimosop Pastor, Teacher
My reading of Scripture reveals that Paul was not a replacement of Judas but that Mathias was. 

The Jerusalem church clearly did the replacement before Paul was called by Christ in person as an apostle to the Gentile church. There can be no conflict on this. 

Both Mathias and Paul were God's choices for their respective ministries. The choice of Mathias by the church community was not questioned anywhere in the Bible. 

The church acted with spiritual prudence in determining the appointment. 

The Jerusalem church was a distinct church communion from the Gentile church until after the Jerusalem Council of Acts 15. 

The issue of which names would appear in the apostolic list of honor is irrelevant in so far as the advancement of the gospel is concerned. 

My concluding view is that there were ultimately 13 apostles of Jesus Christ who served God's divine purposes in laying the foundation for the early church ministry on which the church was built through the church ages. 

All the 13 apostles were special men of God whose offices ended with the apostolic age. 

The appointment of Mathias by the Jerusalem church was therefore biblically valid and legitimate and therefore approved of God. 

Any other appointment to Church office made today [beside that of apostle] which is conducted within the meaning of Scripture remains valid. 

If this were not the case, then the appointment of church ministers or indeed any of the other church ministry offices would be open to question.

August 14 2016 0 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Data Julian Grear
To be brief, Matthias was the apostle chosen to replace Judas Iscariot. Paul was appointed later on in the bible.

December 24 2013 0 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Mini Dee Fogg
Matthias was chosen by the Apostles not God. Does that not make him an Apostle? No. They prayed to God but did not wait for His answer, but cast lots, the Old Testament way. Peter reverted back to the Mosiac priesthood for direction and discernment. Peter was not a levitical priest to cast lots. They were to wait for the promise, Acts 1:4. The Lord was ushering in a new order. They didn't see Jesus cast lots. He prayed and waited on the Father. I feel the Holy Spirit would have shown them who to choose to fulfill the prophecy in Ps 69:25; 109:8.

December 25 2013 0 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Mini Daniel Carlson Pastor of the Community Bible Church in Aguila, Arizona
The biblical answer is that both Matthias and Paul were apostles. But so were several others! If we go by the Greek word "apostolos," (meaning a delegate, an ambassador of the Gospel, a commissioner of Christ, one who is sent, a messenger - Strong's 652) we discover the following persons were also apostles:

Barnabas (Acts 13:1-3)
Andronicus (Rom. 16:7)
Junia (Rom. 16:7)
Apollos (1 Cor. 4:6-9)
James (the Lord's brother - not one of the original twelve - Gal. 1:19)
Silas (Silvanus) (1 Thess. 1:1 with 2:6)
Timothy (Timotheus) (1 Thess. 1:1 with 2:6)
Epaphroditus ("messenger" = "apostolos" (Phil. 2:6)
And finally, the Great Apostle, Jesus Christ! (Heb. 3:1)

This is not obvious in every case in the English translations, however, the
Greek "apostoles" makes it quite evident.

If anyone disagrees, although I'm not a coward, I'm not prepared to die on the battlefield to defend my position. I have more important battles to fight!

September 03 2014 0 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Mini Richard Rios
First of all, from the Old Testament examples into the New Testament it is God who decides who the lot falls on and not man. (Prov 16:33) So it was not man’s decision, but God’s when the lot fell on Mathias.

Second, Paul himself stated that he was chosen to be an Apostle to the Gentiles and not to the Jews (Rom. 11:13). According to Jesus own words, the 12 Apostle’s who had followed Him will sit in Judgment over the nation of Israel (Mat. 19:28). Paul had not followed Jesus and therefore could not meet this requirement. So, another Apostle had to be chosen from the disciples who had followed Christ to fill the vacant position of Judas to sit in judgment over Israel.

Third, Paul Himself states in the verse that you cited that it is Jesus Christ and God who appointed him as an apostle (Gal. 1:1), and again at the beginning of most of his epistles Paul clearly states that he was called by the will of God to be an Apostle of Jesus Christ. In 1 Tim. 1:1 Paul says that he is an Apostle by the command of God. So it is not only Jesus the Son who appoints apostles (as you have mentioned) but God does as well.

After Jesus chose the original 12 Apostles, scripture clearly tells us that He spent the whole night in prayer to God then He chose the 12 (Luke 6:12-16). So we are led to understand that Jesus went before God the Father in prayer, seeking direction as to who the 12 would be. So the decision was not His alone, but was in conjunction with the Father's.

So Mathias was clearly God’s choice to replace Judas as an Apostle to the nation of Israel, and Paul was God’s choice to be chosen as an Apostle to the Gentiles.

December 19 2016 0 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Mini Ed Besselman
I don't see the Holy Spirit leading impetuous Peter to appoint Matthias to replace Judas. Scripture does not say that Peter prayed nor sought the LORD's will.

Look at all the introductions of Paul in his letters to the churches.

Romans 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
I Corinthians 1:1 Paul, called an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God,
II Corinthians 1:1 & Ephesians 1:1 & Colossians 1:1 & II Timothy 1:1 begins... Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God,
I Timothy 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ,
Titus 1:1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ,

I believe that Galatians tells a lot of the problems that Paul was having with this Matthias / Paul controversy.

Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men... (the disciples in the upper room), neither by man (Simon Peter), but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised Him from the dead;)

I believe that Paul was the 12th apostle... even though there are others also designated as apostles.

April 04 2017 1 response Vote Up Share Report


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