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Under the new covenant does God still get angry with believers?



    
    

Clarify Share Report Asked August 02 2014 Mini Lesley Clark

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All praises to you loving god mar 12 Vivian McLemore
God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it? Numbers 23AA:19. For I, the LORD, do not change; Malachi 3:6
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. Isaiah 55:8-9. God uses "righteous anger" and not the kind of anger men act on,. Lastly, God is no respecter of person. 

And the LORD was "angry: with Solomon, because his heart had turned away from the LORD, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice and had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods. But he did not keep what the LORD commanded. "1 Kings 11:9-10. 

The law in OT was for the lawless. In NT we are under Grace. This Grace does not give us believers the license to sin and make our God angry! The law in the hand of Christ no longer will condemn the believer. The law no longer can threatens the believer with vindictive wrath. When a believer is In Christ, there is no threatening of eternal, vindictive wrath and punishment. In Christ, believers have no fear of judgment.

“There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love,” (1 Jn. 4:18). 

Believers no longer should not fear the threats and punitive punishments of the law because they are under grace.

August 03 2014 1 response Vote Up Share Report


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Mini Rush Hampton
Romans 8:1. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. The word condemnation has 3 meanings. It can mean condemnation and it can mean guilty sentence and it can mean no punishment. When Jesus paid for our sin nature, he not only took the sin, he also took all of Gods wrath toward sin. That's Good News. Jesus paid the price so we could go free. John 8;36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed KJV. So if the Son sets you free, you are truly free. NLT

August 04 2014 0 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Mini Mark Vestal Supporter
God is no longer imputing our trespasses to us (2 Cor 5:19) during the current dispensation of the grace of God (Eph 3:2). 

Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah (Jer 31:31, Heb 8:8). Note that the new covenant is for the house of Israel, and the house of Judah, not you or I.

Biblical Israel's new covenant will be established when Christ returns for His millennial reign on Earth (Rev 20:4-6). Many confuse the bible's "New Testament" as being the new covenant, but God's new covenant remains prophetic as it has not yet been established or even meant for believers today, who are members of the church the body of Christ (Col 1:24, Eph 5:23). God now sees us in Christ, and not who we see when we look in the mirror!

We have something much greater than a covenant as we are not under law, we live under God's grace (Rom 6:14). Our salvation simply requires faith in what Jesus Christ did on the cross on our behalf (Rom 3:28, 1 Cor 1:23). Christ paid for all of our sins (Rom 3:28, 1 Cor 15:3, Gal 2:20, Col 2:13, 2 Cor 5:19), and was buried and rose again for our justification (2 Cor 1:9, Rom 4:25). It is the free gift of God made possible by His grace (Rom 5:18), and our belief is acceptance of His free gift (Eph 2:8. Eph 1:13).

Rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Tim 2:15), the gospel of our salvation (Eph 1:13), means to separate the gospel given to Paul from the gospel given to biblical Israel when studying the bible. Jesus' message while living and that of the 12 apostles were only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, not us (Mat 10:5-6, Mat 15:24). Our doctrine is found in the 13 epistles of Paul, Romans through Philemon (Rom 3:21).

Biblical Israel was required to do works under their covenant with God in 'times past' (Rom 11:6, James 2:24). Works today, with the belief that it is to obtain or maintain salvation, actually puts us in debt with God as this shows lack of faith in what Christ's death, burial, and resurrection means for us (Rom 4:4). True believers don't work in order to be saved, they work because they are saved (Eph 2:10, Eph 4:12). They desire to work for God once they realize what Christ did for them.

When you’re a passenger in a vehicle, you have faith that the driver will safely get you to your destination. Jesus Christ is our ‘spiritual driver’ (Rom 5:10, Rom 8:32), and the holy Spirit, our 'spiritual seat-belt' (Eph 4:30), that seals our souls until the day of redemption at the moment of belief (Eph 1:13)! We can’t lose our salvation, but living as we should as Christians can still be difficult at times (Rom 7:23). We will certainly fail on occasion while Satan reigns in this present evil world (Gal 1:4, 2 Cor 4:4, Rom 7:24-25), but our resolve should never waver (2 Cor 7:1), as God’s love for us becomes more evident in our daily walk (2 Cor 13:14).

January 15 2022 0 responses Vote Up Share Report


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