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Is it possible to be truly converted and yet lack full surrender?

Suppose someone is very active in church attendence and missions support, but has not bothered to correct certain errors even after much admonition--errors like murmering, criticising and lack of love for the brethren. Is this person truly saved?

Clarify Share Report Asked February 12 2014 20131114 174154 Aju Thom

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Mini Robb Mayo
No, absolutely Not. Jesus made a very important comment after some of His "followers" stated that they performed miracles "in His name", and Jesus responded with "Depart from me, for I Never KNEW you" That word Knew, refers in both Greek & Hebrew, to the "deepest of intimacies". 

Those who are "truly" converted Must Surrender their lives to Jesus, or they will only follow their own desires for their lives, instead of God's desires. Since intimacy is more important to Jesus than Anything we ever Do for Him, the depth of the intimacy He desires to have with His disciples/ followers can only be accomplished by our surrender to Him. 

Total surrender seldom if ever occurs overnight or in a few hours. It can only be accomplished by the work of the Holy Spirit in us. As we trust Jesus more and more, we will surrender more and more of our lives to Him. Paul said it well when he proclaimed, " It is no longer I who lives, but it is Christ who lives in me" this proclamation could only be said, and be true, for all those who have commited and surrendered their lives to Jesus.

Complete surrender is so "FEARFUL" to most people who consider themselves followers, and believers, that they may never surrender, and allow the Holy Spirit to lead them into intimacy with Jesus. If we don't develop intimacy with God, we may have never been truly converted.

February 13 2014 7 responses Vote Up Share Report


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Mini Truth & Light & Love of God Seeker
Jesus' Teaching:

Our Father...your Kingdom come, your will be done... (Matthew 6, The Lord's Prayer).

My paraphrase of parts of this portion as a spiritual child of the Father: 
Our Father... please HELP we your children to do your will! 

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Being Converted According to Scripture:
Being converted refers to seeing, hearing, understanding, having eyes & hears that are open, coming as a little child, having sins (sins: missing the mark, rebellion, inequity, unclean heart, unrighteous spirit, etc.) forgiven & blotted out, and being refreshed from the presence of the Lord. 
(See Psa_51:13, Isa_60:5, Mat_13:15, Mat_18:3, Mar_4:12, Luke_22:32, Jon 12:40, Act 3:10, Act_28:27)

Who did Christ say he did not know:
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? 
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 
Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 

What did they just hear? Jesus had JUST taught the people who came to hear him how to be blessed & to grow spiritually through the Beatitudes & the Lord's Prayer. Who will be wise? Those who hear & build upon his house/life upon His teachings of the Beatitudes & Lord's Prayer. 

Need a little help in making the Blessings of the Beatitudes a part of your life, ongoing decision making, spiritual growth & refreshing?

http://4step.org/4step.htm

February 14 2014 0 responses Vote Up Share Report


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