Should the explanation in Genesis on how God created plants before the sun affect the understanding of creation?


Genesis 1:1 - 31

NASB - 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.

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Mini Tim Maas Retired Quality Assurance Specialist with the U.S. Army
I would express it by saying that, as noted in the question, the Bible indicates that the sun had not yet been created, but there were still apparently alternating periods of light (from whatever source -- perhaps from God Himself (1 John 1:5)) and darkness, which would have made vegetation possible, and be consistent with the Genesis account.

(In the so-called Scopes "monkey trial" in 1925, attorney Clarence Darrow directed inquiries similar to this question to William Jennings Bryan (whom Darrow had called to the witness stand as an expert on the Bible) while defending teacher John Scopes in connection with the teaching of evolution in schools, which at that time violated Tennessee law.)

February 28 2023 0 responses Vote Up Share Report

Mini Justin Hale
Actually, what it should do is indicate to you that your grasp of the narrative isn't accurate, (even though this interpretation is unfortunately widespread).

The narrative of the original Creation given in Genesis is one verse long, simply stating that GOD is its Originator. The second verse in Genesis flashes us forward to a time just after a global flood greater than the one in Noah's day. The earth was 'formless and void,' filled with nothing but water. So great was the deluge that it was actually 'two waters,' separated only by temperature, since the 'upper waters' (Hebrew: 'mayim al'), were essentially a giant frozen ice block obscuring all light. The 'lower waters' (Hebrew: 'mayim tahat'), were covering the entire earth beneath.

How do we know any of this?

Scripture states plainly elsewhere that the earth was NOT 'formless and void' when created, but was 'created to be inhabited,' (Isaiah 45:18). 

So when GOD says, 'Let there be light,' He was not 'inventing' light. He was commanding for it to return after having been blocked. GOD 'violently fluttered,' (Hebrew: 'rāḥap̄'), against the waters and separated them, releasing the giant ice block into 'the deep,' (what we now call 'space'). This allowed light to enter once again.

The light and any ongoing obstructions needed to be 'reorganized' to begin to truly 'govern' the days and nights as intended, which is what is being described on the day when the sun, moon and stars appeared. GOD commanded this new arrangement into existence so that the vegetation that was growing could be suitable for future habitation. Whatever it was up to that point wasn't entirely suitable. 

You also need to understand that ANY time scripture says that 'Yahweh' is active within His Creation or 'comes down' to visit it, He isn't 'binding' Himself inside time with us. He remains an 'eternal' being. So effectively, time 'stops' while event flows continue. 'Eternity' is present until the event flows cease, then time's linear narrative commences with the new 'arrangements' present within it.

This happens to also be the missing 'math' and scientific 'missing link' that resolves the current absurdities in their latest 'atheistic' narratives that require things like 'super luck,' (evolutionary biology alone requires overcoming odds exceeding one in one duodecillion [that has 39 zeros!], and also just accepting 'eternal, unchanging and unexplained' natural laws. 

"For a thousand years in Your sight
Are like yesterday when it passes by,
Or as a watch in the night." (Psalm 90:4).

"But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day." (2 Peter 3:8). 

This even happened when Jesus 'came to visit' us, which explains how He was able to do the seemingly impossible 'in an instant,' like restoring the dead, healing the gravely or irreversibly ill, or multiplying food for large groups of people with no visible 'supporting infrastructure.' 

None of this was 'magic,' but it seems like it when we fail to grasp what happens when GOD visits and 'time' is no longer the great 'task-master' it appears to be to us. 

This is also why the Holy Spirit says this without exaggeration:

"And there are also many other things which Jesus did, which if they were written one after the other, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written." (John 21:25). 

Time itself is governed by the speed of light. GOD modeled physical light after Himself, (1 John 1:5), and we will someday exist in His own cosmos, (perfect arrangement of Creation), where He Himself replaces the 'governance' provided by the sun, moon and stars, (Revelation 21:23).

Our English word 'atom' appears in scripture as a measurement of 'time' rather than matter, (Biblical Greek 'atomos'). It is an 'indivisibly small' unit of time that makes up Created reality itself. This faulty understanding is at the basis of the delusions.

February 28 2023 0 responses Vote Up Share Report

Mini Francisca Rios
I would like to point out that God didn't create, nor did he have a book written for us not to understand what he would not want us to understand. There is no mistake nor any other explanation as to what was meant when the words were written. 

I have to say that from recent videos that I have seen about planting seeds, in almost all of those videos, they mention storing the seeds in a dark damp space before planting it into the soil. 

I appreciate your explanations in trying to explain what God might or might not have meant for the writer to write what was written, but (once again) there was no mistake nor there a need to explain what was already written in plain text, "inspired by God's word."

March 02 2023 1 response Vote Up Share Report

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