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What does Apostle John mean or refers to when he says, "All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which does not lead to death"?

If sin is wrongdoing, and its wages are death. How comes there's a sin that doesn't lead to death? Sorry that I'm being ignorant, but I just want to learn and grasp in this truth, thanks!

1 John 5:17

ESV - 17 All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that does not lead to death.

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Mini Ann Gehin
John IS saying that all wrongdoing is sin. However, not all sin permanently leads to "death" because we can either repent of it, and/or others can pray to intercede for us to be saved while we are still in sin. Therefore, just because as believers or non-believers, we sin, we are not sentenced to death because we can still avail ourselves of Jesus' saving grace. However, there is one wrong doing that is the wages of death, and that is rejecting our Lord Jesus.

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Mini James Kraft 74 year old retired pipeline worker
There are sins that lead to death. Not loss of salvation, but physical death

First Corinthians 5:5 Turn such a one over to Satan to kill the flesh, so that his Spirit, Ephesians 4:30, may be saved in the day of the Lord. This born again believer was sleeping with his fathers wife. 

A believer can lose their life, and their rewards in heaven, but not eternal life, or that would make God a liar. John 6:47. 

First Corinthians 3:15 If a believers works are all burned up, they are still saved so as by fire. The GIFT of God is eternal life by a one time faith alone in Jesus alone plus nothing. 

Our sin debt is paid in full, past, present, and future sins. Romans 4:7-8.And since eternal life is a free gift from God by faith alone, Romans 3:26-28. We can only lose rewards in heaven. None of us has anything to boast in because salvation is free to all who believe on His name. First John 5:13.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, and we all sin, and we all die, but the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. 

We have nothing to boast in because we did nothing but believe God for the free gift of eternal life. John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that all that seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up on the last day. Gods word, and He can not lie. John 6:47.Gods word, and HE can not lie. 

Jesus tasted death for every man women and child in the world. First John 2:2 And He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but for the sins of the whole world. 

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His only be gotten Son, Jesus, that WHOSOEVER, believeth in Him, should not perish, but HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. 

John 3:18 Believers are no longer condemned, but unbelievers are condemned already because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. 

Not because they are not believing it now, but because they never did believe it. Second Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, He abideth faithful, He can not deny Himself. Ephesians 1:13. 

The seal of the Holy Spirit is our guarantee of eternal life. Ephesians 1:13-14 Romans 8:9 Without the Spirit of God there is no salvation. With the Spirit we have eternal life. 

We get the seal of the Holy Spirit the second we accept His free gift of eternal life. Acts 16:31.

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Mini Aurel Gheorghe
My understanding is that when John is saying “sin that leads to death” he is talking about the sin against the Holy Spirit.

In chapter 5 John is addressing the believers' need to love and obey God’s commandments, and to overcome the world (1 John 5:3-5).

In 1 John 5:13-16, he is urging the brethren to pray to God according to His will and for the brother caught up in sin. Our attitude should be one of love and support: "you should pray to God, who will give him life" (1 John 5:16). God is loving and patient, "not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance" (2 Peter 3:9). 

Sin, regardless if it’s considered a big sin or a small one (James 2:10, 11) all leads to death (Rom 6:23; James 1:15, 16).

Paul, writing to the believers, makes it clear that no unrighteous person will enter God’s kingdom (1 Cor 6:9, 10; Gal 5:19-21; Eph 5:5; 1 Tim 1:9). 

The only sin that cannot be forgiven is the sin for which forgiveness is not being asked. And blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the only sin that cannot be forgiven (Mark 3:29) because it is the Holy Spirit who convicts of sin (John 16:8-11) and to resist the Holy Spirit’s conviction is to reject God who cannot force Himself on anyone who rejects Him.

"And by this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. Whoever says “I know Him” but does not keep His commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, but whoever keeps His word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in Him: whoever says he abides in Him ought to walk in the same way in which He walked (1 John 2:3-6).

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