Joseph Turner Christian, Sunday School Teacher, Actor, Health Food Worker

In my humble opinion, this can be potentially resolved by a look at what God says in Genesis 15:13. In it, God promises Abraham that his descendants would be 'afflicted for four hundred years.' 

Let us flash forward to Israel, to whom God reiterates the promises in Genesis 46:2-4 that he had made to Abraham. It is then that the four hundred years passes, leading to the fulfillment of the covenant and the delivering of the law. 

You see, four hundred years was promised to pass before deliverance, but they had not begun until Israel was in Egypt. One must not also forget that, in Hebrew thought, that when God spoke the promise to Abraham, he was also speaking it to Israel, who was dwelling in Abraham at the time, much like how Levi paid tithes to Melchizedek according to the writer of Hebrews 7:9-10. 

So, one could say that, while the promise was first spoken to Abraham, the one to whom the four hundred thirty years was promised was Israel. This is further evidenced in Hebrews 11:5-10, when the writer says that Abraham went to live 'in tents with Isaac and Jacob.'

At the same time, the main point of Paul's message was not the technical passage of time, though, to be sure, the required time had passed, but that the Abrahamic Covenant was not nullified by the Mosaic Law. 

The context of Galatians is that the people were twisting the Gospel of Christ and of God's grace into something other than what it was intended to be. Instead of liberating people from the constraints of the law, Judaizers were saying that, in order to be a true Christian, people had to become Jews first and get circumcised, etc. Thus, Paul was reminding them that the law and the promises of God are two separate things, and that adherence to the law does not save one from God's wrath. It is only by clinging to the promises that God has made, which He promised by Himself (see Hebrews 6:13; Genesis 15), that all believers in Christ have eternal life (1 John 5:13).

God bless!

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Lena Wms Student @Christ Gospel Church, S.S.Teacher, Observer

Because I am a "numbers" person, this question is exceptional. It's intriguing how the LORD hides beautiful truths interwoven throughout the Word, hidden from the wise and left for the babes. Line upon line, precept precept, just like the prophet said. Isa 28:10, Luk 10:21

Abraham was promised that his Seed would become a great Nation and inherit the Land after they suffered. This was the Promise, Abraham waited on the Performance. A Principal of God Almighty, with every Promise comes the Performance, and the waiting on the Performance is an act of Faith.

Abraham was with Issac when Rebekah was with child, the famous twins, Jacob and Esau. The Bible records that Rebekah went and inquired of the LORD. (Wonder why Issac did not go?) "LORD, why are they trying to tear my insides apart!" 

How did they inquire of the LORD? They had to build an altar and make a sacrifice. She was pregnant with twins who were fighting in her womb. So who did this for her? I propose her very own Father in law, Abraham? He was there when God spoke to Rebekah and revealed the prophecy of the two Nations that were fighting in her womb. Gen 25:13

Abraham was there when Jacob was born, he was his grandfather. He tutored him. Jacob stayed in the tents. Esau preferred to hunt game, large or small. 

Gen 21:4, tells us Abraham was 100 when Issac was born, 
Gen 25:7 records that Abraham lived to be 175. 
Gen 25:26 states Issac was 60 when Jacob was born 
Abraham was appox. 160 years old.

Jacob learned about the LORD God from Abraham. We know this happened as later when Jacob had the beautiful dream and was shown the Ladder of Heaven He awoke and prayed to the Lord God, calling the place the House of God, or Bethel. Gen 28:22 

Abraham also knew that Jacob would carry the Promise Seed, He knew the blessings the LORD God had promised him would one day rest on this young man's head. Abraham poured into Jacob everything he knew about God. Gen 28:13-15, 

We never read of God speaking to Abraham after Jacob was born. The torch was being passed. As Jacob grew and matured, left home, took wives, had children, the LORD began to deal with Jacob to bring him back to the land of his birth. After a night of wrestling, Jacob's name was changed to Israel. Still, the promise to Abraham had not met performance. Gen 32:24-30, Gen 35:11-12, 

Finally, a seventeen year old boy had some dreams. (Gen 37:5) Performance had arrived. Promise had finally met performance. Joseph was sold to Egypt (Gen 37:28) A Jewish boy was sold to slavery for 30 years. (Gen 46:2-3) Joseph brought his family and Jacob to Egypt.
They were enslaved for an additional 400 years.

The Lord God used Egypt's hard rod to toughen the Israelites. (Ex 1:12) To make them a great Nation that would one day walk out of Egypt with riches and wealth unbelievable! (Ex 3:21-22, Ex 11:2-3, Ex 12:35-36) Over 600,000 fighting men plus women and children left Egypt that first Passover. The Promise fulfilled!

This is how I believe the 430 years is calculated that Paul talked about. 
30 for Joseph and 400 for Israel, for a total of 430 till the Law, 

Be Blessed,
Lena

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Azeez Yinusa

Arun, you asked a great question and I thank the Lord for your question, because it will shed light on what a lot of people have been confused about. Please, take the time to read the comments made by Joseph Wade Turner. It explains what the Lord was saying to Abram, concerning the affliction of 400 years.(Genesis 15:13). God was not telling Abram that the affliction would begin while He was talking to Abram, if that were the case, it would be 645. God did not even tell Abram when the affliction would start, however, when the affliction started, we all know it, because it started in the Exodus 1. Also, read Exodus 12:40-41, Acts 7:6. God bless you for this great question. I hope this clarifies and answers your question.

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Paytawn Erskine

Just do the math and you will see:

1) They where not in Egypt for 430 years

Let’s count the ages from the genealogy. 

“And these were the names of the children of Yisra’ĕl,......who came into Mitsrayim:
Berĕshith (Genesis) 46:8 TS2009

“And the sons of Lĕwi:.... Qehath....
Berĕshith (Genesis) 46:11 TS2009

“And the sons of Qehath: Amram....... And the years of the life of Qehath were 133”
Shemoth (Exodus) 6:18 TS2009

“And Amram took.......a wife. And she bore him Aharon and Mosheh. And the years of..... Amram were 137”
Shemoth (Exodus) 6:20 TS2009

*Read Exodus 12:40 in the Septuagint (the oldest fully intact bible) and you will see: 

Land of Canaan was taken out. 

And the sojourning of the children of Israel, while they sojourned in the land of Egypt and the land of Chanaan, was four hundred and thirty years.

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Al Mari Private practice as a cardiovascular & thoracic surgeon

Please consider my different take on this "430 years".

The question centers on Paul's letter Gal. 3:17 "And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 

The prevailing understanding of this verse was that this refers to the Law that was given 430 years after the promise to Abraham. Because of this assumption, many calculations and commentaries resulted. But, could this original verse be "lost in translation" because of "sentence construction" by the translator?

In my humble opinion, after reading through this verse over and over again and all biblical references to "430 years" especially Ex. 12:40-42, we may need to re-evaluate our current understanding. 

Notice that the operative word to Paul was "confirmed". Meaning that the promise to Abraham was "confirmed" 430 years later. But, how was that promise "confirmed"? 

Was it "confirmed" by giving of the Law at Mt Sinai? The essence of Paul's letter was magnifying faith not Law. The calculation cannot therefore be about the Law. So, a better way to "confirm" actually transpired in Exodus. 

Since the promise was actually to "the seed" (Christ) not seeds according to Paul, this was therefore "confirmed" "in Christ"(Gal.3:17), i.e., the blood of the Lamb at the first Passover in Nisan 14. 

From the narrative in Exodus, this was the first time when the lamb was killed and the blood of the Lamb "confirmed" that the "firstborns" were saved from death. Calculation of 430 years has to be from the time the promise was made(which was covenantal) to the time it was "confirmed".

Indeed, proof positive that the promise is well-founded in the blood of Christ. Nowhere prior to this seminal event was the promise "confirmed" with the blood of the Lamb and "actual and verifiable salvation" of the "firstborn", until this time. 

In Ex 12:40-42 "...selfsame day (Nisan 15) when Israel left Egypt and freed from bondage..." end of 430 years..."

Contextually, the covenant promise to Abraham was confirmed "in Christ" 
(the Seed) after 430 years, when Passover was killed, "firstborn" saved from death (salvation) and Israel left Egyptian bondage. 

That promise, having been confirmed 430 years after, cannot therefore be disannulled by the Law that came after. 

Lost in Translation?

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John Appelt

In many versions, Exodus 12:40 seems to indicate that Israel was in Egypt for the whole 430 years. So, it would be logical to add the 430 years of the supposed duration in Egypt to the 215 years from the covenant with Abraham to Jacob’s entrance into Egypt which would make a total of 645 years. 

However, in Galatians 3:17, Paul notes that from the covenant to the law was 430 years. This would be the covenant with Abraham until the giving of the law. He gives the total number of years. 

A study of Exodus 12:40 provides an explanation. The literal translation reads, “Now the sojourn of the children of Israel who lived in Egypt was 430 years.” The phrase “who lived in Egypt” merely tells as a side note where they were living at the time of the Exodus. So, the sojourn in Egypt was not necessarily 430 years long, and it can be determined it was not.

The Septuagint (LXX), the Greek translation of the Old Testament, has the sojourn “in the land of Canaan and in the land of Egypt,” and the Samaritan Pentateuch has “in Egypt and in the land of Canaan.” These two sources added words to correctly explain what was meant. The sojourning or dwelling was not all in Egypt. Part of the sojourn was in the land of Canaan where Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob lived. The total sojourning in both Canaan and Egypt lasted 430 years.

The time between the call of Abraham and Jacob moving into Egypt adds up to 215 years. If the total time is 430 years, it leaves 215 years for the time Israel was in Egypt. There are two equal periods of 215 years: 

From the call of Abraham to Jacob moving into Egypt: 215 years of the sojourn in Canaan.

From Jacob moving into Egypt to Israel leaving Egypt: 215 years of the sojourn in Egypt.

Both Scriptural mentions of 430 years are the same period of time. The beginning point for both references of Galatians and Exodus is when God made the covenant with Abraham, Genesis 12:1-3. The ending point is the year Israel left Egypt and when the law was given three months later, Exodus 19:1. 

The following chart shows details of the period from the call of Abraham to the Exodus: 

0 – the call of Abraham at 75, Genesis 12:1-7
25 – Isaac born when Abraham was 100, Genesis 21:5
60 – sixty years later, Jacob was born, Genesis 25:26
130 – Jacob at 130 years old entered Egypt, Genesis 47:9, making a total of 215 years from the call of Abraham to Jacob’s move into Egypt
215 – years Israel was in Egypt until the Exodus
430 – total number of years from call of Abraham to Exodus

By subtracting the 215 years covering the period of Abraham’s covenant through Jacob’s entrance into Egypt from the total 430 years, it leaves 215 years of sojourn just in Egypt. Israel was not in Egypt for 430 years.

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Wayne Myhre

"Now the sojourn of the children of Israel who lived in Egypt was 430 years. And it came to pass at the end of the 430 years, on that very same day, it came to pass that all the armies of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt." (Ex. 12:40-41, NKJV). This is from the Massoretic copy which dates from the ninth century. 

And this is from the Dead Sea scroll dated from the first century BC to mid first century AD: "Now the time that the children of Israel lived in Egypt was four hundred thirty years. At the end of four hundred thirty years, to the day, all of Yahweh’s armies went out from the land of Egypt"(DSS)1. 

A literal reading of this verse in Hebrew (Massoretic text) is: “The sojourning of the children of Israel which they sojourned in Egypt.” Jamieson says, “The plain import of the present Hebrew text is, that the Israelites remained in Egypt, as a tribe or people, during the period specified. …Through the indirect influence of the LXX, Josephus, and the Rabbins, the truthfulness of whose views has been supposed to be endorsed by Paul (Gal.3:17), the popular interpretation of this passage is to consider it as embracing the entire period, from the call of Abraham to the exodus:-thus reducing the actual stay of the Israelites in Egypt to 215 years, while the previous half was that passed by the patriarchs in Canaan.” 3 

But in order to make out 215 years, it is necessary to assume that Levi was 95 years old when Jochebed was born, and that Jochebed was 85 years old when she became mother of Moses. This is said by one commentator of great weight not to be improbable, but which scenario is more likely? 

Paul J.Ray states: “The name Amram of vs. 20 may be a conflation of the name of the Amram who was the head of one of the third-generation families of Levi, with the name of a later Amram who was the father of Moses and Aaron.[xvi] There was a tendency among the Levites to name their sons after their forefathers (cf. 1 Chr 6:7–13; Lk 1:5, 59–61). Thus, several generations appear to have been telescoped here, with Amram, the father of Moses and Aaron, probably being at least the grandson of the original Amram, if not even a later descendant.7a

What do the Jewish scholars have to say? The Jewish Quarterly says, “Yet, rabbinic tradition teaches us that the verse is not to be taken literally because of a seeming contradiction with Genesis 46:8-27 which lists the people who descended to Egypt together with Jacob…The verses in Genesis 46 were not giving an account of all the grandchildren of Jacob who actually came down to Egypt with him. Rather, some of these were born before descending to Egypt while others were born in Egypt. This difficulty led our rabbis to reinterpret Exodus 12:40.8

1. Davis, Craig. DSSEnglishBible.com
3. JF&B, vol.1, pp. 318-319. 
7a. Ray, Paul,J. Associates for Biblical Research, "The Duration of the Israelite Sojourn in Egypt" 2012. First pub. In Bible & Spade, 2007.
8.Gadeloff, David. Jewish bible quarterly 44:3, How long was the Sojourn in Egypt? 2016.
This is an excerpt from my book From Creation to Christ. Lulu Press. C.2019. Wayne

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Albert DeBenedictis Retired computer programmer

This is what I found in some commentaries regarding this question:

From Israel’s sojourn in Egypt (cf. Exodus 12:40) to the giving of the law at Sinai (ca. 1445 B.C.). The law actually came 645 years after the initial promise to Abraham (ca. 2090 B.C.; cf. Genesis 12:4; 21:5; 26:26; 47:9), but the promise was repeated to Isaac (Genesis 26:24) and later to Jacob (ca. 1928 B.C.; Genesis 28:15). The last known reaffirmation of the Abrahamic Covenant to Jacob occurred in Genesis 46:2-4 (ca. 1875 B.C.) just before he went to Egypt – 430 years before the Mosaic law was given. – Taken from The MacArthur Study Bible (Second Edition) New King James Version, Galatians 3:17 footnote.

[In Galatians 3:17,] Paul is apparently referring to the Septuagint translation of Exodus 12:40, “The dwelling of the children of Israel… in Egypt and in Canaan was 430 years,” which would mean 430 years from Abraham to the exodus (the Hebrew text does not include “and in Canaan”). Another explanation is that Paul was not counting the time from the first statement of the promise to Abraham but from the last affirmation of that promise to Jacob before he went to Egypt in Genesis 46:3-4. This method would then count the entire time in Egypt as the time the “promise” to the “law.” If this is so, then Paul is relying on the Hebrews text of Exodus 12:40 to affirm a 430 year stay in Egypt. – Taken from the ESV Study Bible (English Standard Version), Galatians 3:17 footnote.

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Doug Froning

Stephen makes it clear that the call of Abraham was while in Ur not Haran. Acts 7:2ff.

The 430 year prophecy started with Abraham sojourning out of Ur. 30 years later Isaac was born and that started the 400 year prophecy. The 430-year prophecy key is found in Gen15:13–16: “Knowing your seed (Isaac) shall be on land not belonging to them (and the will have served them and they will have afflicted them), four hundred years.” It increased to two seeds with Isaac and Jacob. Then the sons of Jacob and their descendants were added to the seed. 

They were sojourners (one who lives on land that does not belong to them). Isaac was compelled to dig wells for the Philistines that he did not get to keep. Jacob was compelled to work for a devious master, Aram Ha-Naharayim. Joseph was a slave in Egypt many years before Jacob went there. 

This service was not continuous, nor of all the same degree. In Egypt Jacob’s sons enjoyed a period of prosperity until Joseph died, only serving to the mutual benefit of Egypt and themselves. They served at the same time they were sojourning on land that did not belong to them. Jacob was afflicted by Laban by changing his agreements. Isaac was episodically afflicted almost immediately by Ishmael as Ishmael thought he would dominate the seed of the promise by mocking him. It takes more calculations to figure the time in Egypt. They both ended at the Exodus in 1632 BC. 

They were not in Egypt for either of these two periods (400 or 430). They were in Egypt for only 210 years. Thankfully, the Hebrews have this one right. A simple way to figure out the time in Egypt is to take the 400 year prophecy which started with birth of Isaac. Isaac had Jacob at age 60. The year Jacob was 130 they came to Egypt in the 2nd year of the famine. 400–60–130= 210 in Egypt. In the 210th year in Egypt they came out (The Exodus). This fulfilled the 400 and 430 year prophecy in the year 1632 BC. 

Hope this helps. —Doug

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