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What did it mean to sin "defiantly"? (Proverbs 15:30)

30 “‘But anyone who sins defiantly, whether native-born or foreigner, blasphemes the Lord and must be cut off from the people of Israel. (NIV)

30 " ... presumptuously ..."  KJV

Proverbs 15:30

ESV - 30 The light of the eyes rejoices the heart, and good news refreshes the bones.

Clarify Share Report Asked February 19 2020 My picture Jack Gutknecht

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Mini Tim Maas Retired Quality Assurance Specialist with the U.S. Army
I would say that the Bible's use of the word "defiantly" in relation to an action is not necessarily a reflection of the sheer magnitude of the actual deed performed or offense committed, but, rather, indicates the intent of the person performing or committing it.

Saying that an action (regardless of its nature) was performed defiantly means that it was done 1) deliberately; 2) with full knowledge of the fact that it was wrong or unacceptable in God's view; 3) with a conscious intent or purpose on the part of the doer of the action to challenge or ignore the legitimacy of God's authority in declaring the action to be wrong; and 4) with no intent on the part of the doer to repent or seek forgiveness for the action.

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My picture Jack Gutknecht ABC/DTS graduate, guitar music ministry Baptist church
The Torah stipulates in Numbers 15:30-31 that the person who sins defiantly (with a high hand) must be cut off from the congregation. Then the story that immediately follows, the man who gathered sticks (branches) on the Sabbath, is an illustration of one who sinned defiantly (Numbers 15:32-36).

But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously,.... Or with "an high hand" (t), or through pride, as the Targum of Jonathan; in an haughty, insolent, bold and daring manner; in an obstinate, stubborn, self-willed way, with purpose and design, openly and publicly, "neither fearing God nor regarding man". (See LUKE 18:2 KJV "There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man.")

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